tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post3979292182674265122..comments2024-03-24T17:22:36.875+08:00Comments on Filipino Genealogy Project: Claveria and the Myth of the Spanish AncestorsFilipino Genealogisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05261599804068411473noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-56471997569902213522023-08-19T19:01:18.581+08:002023-08-19T19:01:18.581+08:00i see most filipinos who share their ancestry end ...i see most filipinos who share their ancestry end up either being pure breed filipinos/austronesian or have partial chinese ancestry but almost neither spanish ancestry, arab,bumbay, american, german etc. Thou there is the lack of a clearer study, wouldnt be suprised if 90% of the population is pure breed. PureFilipinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15995874915642787035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-7953084481113952792023-08-19T18:44:25.891+08:002023-08-19T18:44:25.891+08:00it does matter, because at the end of the day bein...it does matter, because at the end of the day being Filipino is a cultural and genetic legacy. PureFilipinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15995874915642787035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-32026341007076205832023-08-19T18:41:07.209+08:002023-08-19T18:41:07.209+08:00not only that there is this fixature in wanting to...not only that there is this fixature in wanting to be mixed, i have heard alot of filipinos saying they are mixed spanish, german, american, chinese, arab, indian. When we know that barely anyone migrated and most filipinos were pure breed. but that makes me wonder why despite the influences of chinese, indian and islamic influences they barely bred with us? PureFilipinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15995874915642787035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-3069581005588380882017-12-28T21:48:00.557+08:002017-12-28T21:48:00.557+08:00My GEDMATCH Oracle results from 23andme raw data v...My GEDMATCH Oracle results from 23andme raw data v5 chip. Mix mode population sharing. <br /><br />Mixed Mode Population Sharing:<br /><br /># Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance<br />1 94.7% Vietnamese + 5.3% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.68<br />2 96.1% Vietnamese + 3.9% Papuan @ 3.72<br />3 91.4% Dai + 8.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.57<br />4 91.4% Dai + 8.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.61<br />5 91.5% Dai + 8.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.62<br />6 91.4% Dai + 8.6% Portuguese @ 4.63<br />7 91.5% Dai + 8.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.63<br />8 91.4% Dai + 8.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.63<br />9 91.6% Dai + 8.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.64<br />10 91.5% Dai + 8.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.65<br />11 91.4% Dai + 8.6% North_Italian @ 4.65<br />12 91.5% Dai + 8.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.66<br />13 91.4% Dai + 8.6% Tuscan @ 4.67<br />14 91.6% Dai + 8.4% Southwest_French @ 4.69<br />15 91.5% Dai + 8.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.69<br />16 91.5% Dai + 8.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.7<br />17 91.4% Dai + 8.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.71<br />18 94.8% Vietnamese + 5.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.78<br />19 94.8% Vietnamese + 5.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.79<br />20 95% Vietnamese + 5% French_Basque @ 4.79<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578167538370593734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-24889067602925716822017-12-28T21:37:07.632+08:002017-12-28T21:37:07.632+08:00The best way to find out if you have Iberian blood...The best way to find out if you have Iberian blood is to take autosomal dna testing from a reputable company. Base on my research 23andMe is the best company out there for filipinos, it allows phasing with a parent which provides better accuracy of your ancestry composition report. It will also shows what you have inherited from each parent after phasing. My results shows Iberian from both parents who were born in the Philippines so as my grandparents and great grandparents. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578167538370593734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-25222076028637901672017-01-31T06:54:22.882+08:002017-01-31T06:54:22.882+08:00Very trueVery trueFilipino Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261599804068411473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-81610365838217550132017-01-31T06:53:35.501+08:002017-01-31T06:53:35.501+08:00Sounds like your ancestor, being part Native Ameri...Sounds like your ancestor, being part Native American and European, could have very well been a Mexican with (Mestizo roots) if your family originated from the Luzon area. I would dig deeper. Where you matched with any 4th cousins from Spanish speaking countries? My friend had exactly your ancestry composition and she was matched with people from Mexico. My friends parents were born in Luzon. But this percentage is very rare though. Most of my Filipino friends do not have any European blood. 3 of them had their Asian lineage broken down, and Aeta came up on GED match after they uploaded their raw data from Ancestry.com. East Asian, Polynesian, and South Asian are the most common regions that show up after a Filipino takes the DNA test. Like I said before, your results are very rare in a Filipino. Kudos!Halo Halohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02054117915138505319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-53996450678906828492017-01-31T06:51:00.827+08:002017-01-31T06:51:00.827+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Halo Halohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02054117915138505319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-23874864003733794572017-01-31T06:38:38.544+08:002017-01-31T06:38:38.544+08:00Thank you. WE should all stop misrepresenting our...Thank you. WE should all stop misrepresenting ourselves but it's hard when it's 'cool' to say you are half Spanish, especially in the Philippines. Everyone and their mama says it!!!Halo Halohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02054117915138505319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-63176362892193915892017-01-28T05:12:23.754+08:002017-01-28T05:12:23.754+08:00Hello:
I have a question regarding the article. N...Hello:<br /><br />I have a question regarding the article. Now, before anything else, I'm not one of those people that insinuate that they are superior because "I am part Spaniard, and you're not." For background, I got my DNA tested recently, two months ago by Accu-Metrics, an accredited American-Canadian org., and it turned out that I am ratioed as 39% Native American / 61% European, primarily Iberian. I'm a naturalized Canadian citizen (we moved in 2008, fairly recent), and my family originated from the Tagalog/Luzon area. Now, would my result help explain the Manila-Galleon-thing? I'm not sure it happened at all because I only read it on Wikipedia, and you guys seem to know what you're doing--so if you can help me investigate this matter, that would be awesome.<br /><br />PS: My family genuinely knows that we have legitimate Spaniard heritage on my mother's side of the family, but we were shocked seeing the ratio and the substantial Native American findings.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />SJJJ<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13409269005460640338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-51638005906041460892016-07-21T06:49:54.497+08:002016-07-21T06:49:54.497+08:00All very interesting and I agree that the Church w...All very interesting and I agree that the Church would not record the "illegitimate" children. There are a lot of mestizo -all combinations (not just Castilian blood) looking people in the PI. Just compare photos of the indigenous tribes still living such as the T'boli and B'laan in Mindanao. Most of us would still look more like them if invaders/settlers had not gone to the PI. A lot of pinoys don't even recognize me as being pinay, it doesn't matter that I'm first generation U.S. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809581683343106369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-66113781622134064152016-07-09T22:09:04.245+08:002016-07-09T22:09:04.245+08:00My grandfather of my grandfather use to receive a ...My grandfather of my grandfather use to receive a pension from the government of Spain. We lost all the documents after the mt. Pinatubo erupted. Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08585411417058041190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-16290804284580215342014-05-17T09:10:47.572+08:002014-05-17T09:10:47.572+08:00Yup, I agree with you. It is of course difficult t...Yup, I agree with you. It is of course difficult to know the extent of Spanish and Indio dalliances. My take is at the end of the day if the records really don't say you are Spanish then let's leave it at that. And if we want more confirmation then genetic genealogy is the key to all our confusion. There have been cases when a family is described indio in records simply because their Spanish ancestor was more than 3 generations removed (usual timeframe for racial classification. After 3 generations of being mestizo español or mestizo sangley it usually reverts to indio). After genetic testing it was discovered they did have Spanish ancestry, albeit very very distantly.Filipino Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261599804068411473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-83349238544588729502014-05-17T06:23:49.398+08:002014-05-17T06:23:49.398+08:00Interesting article.
You are basing you conclusio...Interesting article. <br />You are basing you conclusions on marriage records.<br /><br />"Other families may have had Spanish ancestors, but records in the church say otherwise. "<br /><br />I doubt that the church kept records of children born out of wedlock. Given that Spanish Conquistadors were young men, away from their homeland for a very long time combining with the natural beauty of the Filipina, my guess is that there were a lot kids born out of wedlock. Way more than through marriage.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10941324580851252240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-16774331248484489292014-03-12T02:26:17.137+08:002014-03-12T02:26:17.137+08:00Please stop spreading the myth that only 3.6% of F...Please stop spreading the myth that only 3.6% of Filipinos have any European ancestry. It's simply not true. If you actually read the study where it came from <br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1235276/?tool=pubmed<br /><br />you'll see that it was only testing for paternal haplogroups, and 1 of the 28 Filipinos they tested had a European paternal haplogroup. That is not talking about ancestry as a whole. You should know that<br /><br />And I'm on 23andme, and I've seen plenty of results of Filipinos and almost all of them have at least some European ancestry. It's usually just a small amount, but some people are 25%+. It just depends. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071884865022326577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-51849158166343957352013-09-09T04:27:13.260+08:002013-09-09T04:27:13.260+08:00a small genetic sampling done by an american unive...a small genetic sampling done by an american university showed that Filipinos, at least, in that sample had about 3 percent european blood(forgot the exact percentage), but it was not more than 4% for sure, although again, this was a small statistical sample.<br /><br />a very accurate way to find out if one had a european ancestor is to is to send your hair sample to one of those popular genetic ancestry companies. they are very accurate. For example, I know from our family history , that from my mother's side alone, I would, in theory have 12.5 percent caucasian "blood". after , my brother sent in his hair sample, it turned out it was slightly higher at 16% probably from one of my dad's ancestors. We used his company https://www.23andme.com/<br />Banderashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10345032218928464683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-66974632181443697262012-03-22T22:03:07.968+08:002012-03-22T22:03:07.968+08:00Thank you, K. I admit I was one of those people wh...Thank you, K. I admit I was one of those people who felt a Spanish surname meant Spanish blood. Only after spending some years doing research have I become enlightened. I suppose all we can do is keep on educating others to understand what matters is the history itself, not the kind of blood we have in our veins.Filipino Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261599804068411473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2922149507314144344.post-45191725837963946272012-03-22T21:55:46.068+08:002012-03-22T21:55:46.068+08:00great write up. I've spent 95% of my years doi...great write up. I've spent 95% of my years doing genealogy the past 23yrs explaining to Filipinos about the few intermarriages that existed with foreigners although some may descend from Spaniards, that doesn't grant them Spanish citizenship.Kalanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05445262386931098902noreply@blogger.com